You can’t go home again . . . to Husterhöh Kaserne
The old headquarters building for my unit, 2/56 HHB. Note the twin Nike missiles.. Attrib: Richard Tracy, Saved from usarmygermany.com.
Recently I became curious about my old neighborhood in Pirmasens, Germany, where I was stationed as a soldier in the U.S. Army during the mid-70’s. Through the magic of Google Earth and the Internet, I explored the place I once lived, now thirty five years hence.
Thomas Wolfe’s famous suggestion, “You can’t go home again” covers a large amount of territory; your home is not the only thing to which you cannot return to with any but perfect verisimilitude. Much is lost on the return journey to visit places of your early past: Those monuments to a youthful sense of permanence, buildings, are decrepit or re-purposed, or just plain gone; the places are sometimes smaller or more ordinary than expected; rarely is something completely unchanged from your old memories of it. Even so, the journey often reveals unexpected perspectives, if not just about the places, but about yourself.
Pirmasens. The city still looked, from the satellite photos, much the same. As would be expected, the typical city institutions like the Rathaus on the the main town square, hadn’t moved, the brewery, the Parkbrauerei, was still pumping out Bier, and the Hauptbahnhof, the main train station, that magical place from whence I traveled to and from many places, looked no different from above. On the other hand, the U.S. Army base, the Husterhöh Kaserne, situated on the northern edge of this small town where I had lived and worked for two years, looked abandoned.
Map of Husterhöh Kaserne ~1980. Click for large detailed map.. Attrib: US Military Installation Atlas, 37th Trans Gp, 1980, Saved from usarmygermany.com.
Husterhöh Kaserne. What had happened to the Husterhöh Kaserne in the intervening years? The Kaserne (German for army barracks) had been appropriated by the U.S. Army from the German army at the end of World War II, the Nazi war eagles carved on the top reaches of some of the buildings being immediately destroyed, and then used for varying purposes, much of it storage, as underlying the Kaserne is a network of underground storage facilities and tunnels that made up part of the German Siegfried line. In 1994, some 40 years later, the U.S. Army de-activated the Kaserne and turned it over to the German Army. A few of the buildings are still in use by the German Army, and the U.S. Army still stores medical equipment there. The large administration buildings and troop barracks are mostly abandoned, but many of the working and storage buildings have been accommodated by local businesses, including the old headquarters building of my unit. Many of the barracks buildings, where we lived and slept, appear to be currently abandoned (see notes at bottom).
Development plan for Husterhöhe May 2000. Click for larger image.. Attrib: Stadt Pirmasens, Saved from usarmygermany.com.
The old soccer stadium: FK Pirmasens v. Bayern München. Ted Withycombe and I attended a DFB-Pokal match early in 1976 at the old Horeb; it was a small stadium with no seating, and had only one area to shelter fans from the weather. The game was a big event, as FK Pirmasens competes in the lower professional divisions, and in this Pokal match, the DFB-Pokal being a knockout tournament which includes both the top Bundesliga teams and many lower division teams for an all-German contest, they were pitted against the mighty Bayern-München! And not just any old Bayern team; this team had the nucleus of the 1974 World Cup championship team: Franz Beckenbauer, Sepp Maier, Gerd Mueller, who were the center half, goalie, and striker, respectively for that team, and Beckenbauer alone is still regarded as one of the finest center halfs to ever play the game. There were three others from the 1974 World Cup team playing for Bayern: Uli Hoeness, Jupp Kappelmann, and Georg Scharzenbeck, and the future great Karl-Heinz Rummenigge played, also. Ted and I arrived about 90 minutes early, as there were no reserved places, and all was standing room; we managed to get places on the midline!, standing under the only available shelter. With about 15 minutes until the match start, and the stadium now pretty well filled, about one hundred Bayern fans came in with flags and flagons, many of them quite drunk, and proceeded to push everyone out of the midline spots we had patiently occupied. I said a few choice words in German to some of the Bayern fans, and one of them responded, quite amicably, that I would do well to just settle on being 5 meters off of the midline, where we had been pushed, and shut up, or I could easily get hurt. I smiled back and accepted his advice. The game was played with an inch of snow on the field! but there were almost no slips; despite the conditions, the quality of the game was high. I remembered the score being 2-1 in favor of Bayern at match end, but it turns out it was 2-0 in their favor; my memory was more favorable towards the home team than history records.
New soccer stadium. Pirmasens built their new soccer stadium in 2003, the Städtisches Stadion Husterhöhe, or the Huster Heights City Stadium, situating it atop the old theater and bowling alley, across Virginia Avenue from the athletic field behind the troop barracks where I had spent many an afternoon playing softball, football and soccer. As for the soccer team, FK Pirmasens, it now costs between 3 and 11 Euros to see a game, which is pretty affordable. The old Horeb stadium appears to have been demolished – there are businesses operating on the site today.
2/56 ADA, my old unit. And what had happened to my old unit, the 2nd battalion of the 56th Air Defense Artillery regiment? At the time I served, this battalion fielded four active missile batteries deployed on lonely hilltops in the Rheinland Pfalz surrounding Pirmasens; it was part of the 32nd AADCOM, which was the umbrella organization for air defense in Europe. It was moved to Fort Bliss, TX, in in the 1980’s, and formed a training regiment for Air Defense Artillery, as the air defense missile system we supported, the Nike Hercules ground to air missile system, was being gradually phased out and replaced with more modern equipment. The Nike Hercules system was designed for high altitude air defense following World War II, and by the mid-70’s, was showing its age. The entire deployment of Nike missile sites around the world were phased out over perhaps twenty years, starting in 1973; that is, unbeknownst to me at the time, the retirement of the Nike systems started around the time I was trained to support them!
New life. Perhaps even more interesting, the old headquarters building for my unit, building 4619 on Delaware Avenue, was converted into a city office for economic development. Established in 2001, among other things it provides subsidized office space and business services for start up companies, much like you might find in the Silicon Valley, or even in Portland, Oregon, where the Portland Development Commission operates such a facility. The exterior of the building no longer sports missiles, rather a new 21st century glass-encased extension on one end of the building.
All in all, it was sad to see some of what was once familiar decayed or gone, but on balance, it was much more heartening to see the new uses that these buildings and spaces have taken on, particularly sports parks and stadiums and young businesses replacing the artifacts of war.
Returning home doesn’t seem entirely possible, but renewing and even rearranging memories is a bracing mental exercise.
US Army Germany website. This website has a nice collection of historical pictures of the Husterhöh Kaserne and surrounding US military installations.
Other Notes. Building 4176, Massachusetts Avenue, 20, where I worked as part of the the Direct Support Platoon of the Headquarters Battery, 2/56 ADA, was right across the road from the old heliport, itself which was . . . demolished! The two barracks buildings where I slept were buildings 4408, on North Carolina Ave, and 4609 at the intersection of Delaware and New Hampshire Avenues. Both barracks buildings are still standing as of this writing, and appear to be abandoned.
Google Earth provides multiple historical satellite maps of Pirmasens. Using the (free download) Google Earth Pro app, one can switch between the historical maps and see before and after depictions of the area. The most recent map of Pirmasens as of this writing is October of 2010.
Fresh views. Here is a You Tube video shot in Pirmasens in 2010, a tour of the Husterhöhe.
235 Comments
A. S. Pels
Hello all! I’m Art Pels. I was in STRATCOM from 1967-1970. I’m amazed by how much y’all remember from way back then . . . It’s all such a blur for me. (I was 20 in 1970.) If anybody knew me from those days, please say “Hi”.
Ray Meister
Art.. Hi! I remember U and Terry Kreachbaum, Danny Graff and a few others although after all these years it’s difficult to remember the names. I was there for my last year in the service 8/69-8/70, do u remember me? I made a trip thru Germany back in the summer of 02 and was able to locate the old barracks but they seem to be gone now..I still have the Framus guitar I bought at the exchange back in 69-70… I have a youtube page:
https://www.youtube.com/user/bronxmeister
you might like to check it out…. Terry was a guitar player, can’t remember if you played as well… have u been in touch with Terry? What a trip finding u on this site… no one’s getting younger… stay healthy and well!
Steve Carter
Hey, Art. Steve Carter here. Worked with AUTODIN, DSTE from 1969 to December 1971. I still have fond memories of Pirmasens.
Robert Rigdon
Hey Art. I worked Stratcom – Data Terminal from 1973-1976. I have shared 19 uploads of pictures, etc. with members on the “Husterhoeh Kaserne” face book page since August 2021. A good time in Pirm!
Mike Pioso
I am very glad you were pleased with your childhood there. Nice little town to spend early years in. Sorry about losing yourMom though. That put a dent in it I am certain, Good to hear from Pirmasen’s denizens
Patricia Bono Ledbetter
My daughter is taking German this year in high school. It has opened up my past. My mother was German and married an American soldier. We were stationed in Pirmasens from ’71 – ’77. I went K – 5th grade there. My mother actually passed away while there. She worked at American Express next to the PX. My father was Erwin Bono and all I know was he was Ordnance. Some of the best memories I have are living on base. We lived in the complex right next to the PX and commissary. I also played basketball for the DYA. I saw this article and had to share.
Alan Delphia
Hello , my name is Alan Delphia and I was stationed there in the year of 1972. I remember well the pix and the commissary and the living quarters complex next to. It was a great place and very fond memories. My son was born there at landstule. Nice to see some one remembers the same place !!
fred schnitzius
Patricia Bono Ledbetter, My jaw dropped when I saw your post. SFC Erwin F. Bono was the NCOIC of the section of the 59th Ordnance Group (GMLR) where I shared an office with him in AWSCOM HQ (later changed to SASCOM). He was my boss and I had a desk right next to him. He was also a friend, and we would occasionally stop by the NCO club after work and have a few beers together. I met your mother once, too. He recommended me for promotion in 1973 and I was promoted within a few months. He told me was going to settle in Huntsville, AL after he retired, but whenever someone would ask him where he was from he would say “Roosterpoot, Arkansas”. He had a great sense of humor. I guess we got along so well since we were both from Arkansas. Did he ever tell you that there was a small town named Bono near where he grew up? Had to be named after his family.
Robert Rigdon
Hello Patricia. I was stationed there from 1973-1976. I was with the 267th Signal Company. My partner & I were DJ’s when off duty and spent a lot of time in the Frontier Club and German Discos. My youngest daughter was born at Muenchweiler. My twins attended the American School. I am trying to contact anyone that might have photos in their collection. Please let me know if you do. Thank you.
Melissa Derby
Hi. I went to K-2nd grade. I was there from 77-80
jpe stevens
Melissa, I was there for 1st, 2nd and half of 3rd grade so 1978-1980. I have a class picture of my 1st grade class with Mrs. Barthelemy. I can’t find my 2nd or 3rd grade class picture unfortunately.
Keith Laney
We went to school there together, no way not to have. I lived there 73 to 76,. If you lived in the first set of housing by the PX I lived right behind you on the next street. Bet we played in the same playgounds together so long ago. Awesome
Stephen T Grabert
Hi I’m Stephen Grabert I went to school in Pirmasens from 1967 to 1978 . I basically grew up in Pirmasens and then moved to Florida when I was 16.
David. Dyer
I left Pirmasens Dec 1962 , Was in 545st Signal Co based in the Building next to the Gate
Next to the mess hall. Good times!
David Dyer
Should be 541st Signal Co (spt) Attached to AWSCOM
David Dyer
L Cywinski
I was curious if this is the David Dyer from APG Maryland? I also was stationed at the 5th CEC Husterohe 1980-83
1at USA Ret.
Julius Pratt
Hey Dave – if you see this.. I was in the 541st Sig Co, working in AWSCOM.. I expect you won’t see this, but Gruss Gott & Wie Geht’s !! Prosit Parkbrau!
David Dyer
Hey Pratt, I remember you ! You lived in South Knoxville. I still live in Knoxville.
Good memories of Pirmasens.
christel tressler
Hi Dave
I remember you well, married your buddy, Tressler.
He said Hi!
David Dyer
So glad to hear from you! Made my day! I am going to call you guys!
Mike Pioso
My name is Mike Pioso and I was stationed with the 59th Ord Grp (AWSCOM) from 1969-1971 one floor below the PAL Detachment. I dealt with Hawk, Pershing and Nike-Herc maintenance missile and class V sub units. I lived just across the street from the Officer’s Club and disrupted their PA system routinely with my Ham Radio. My wife worked at the PX. I was also stationed in Miesau in the 4th Ord Co.. as the Supply Officer and XO prior to Pirmasens. Drinking Parkbrau ruined forever common American beer for me. I hope you all enjoyed your tour there as much as my wife and I did. Cheers!.
Alan Delphia
Parkbrau was the best !!! Only in pirmasens !!
Danny Stanley
My name is Danny Stanley ,I was stationed in Pirmasens in 1971-72 with Dale Wagoner and his wife Susie. They had an apartment in Muechweiller. I loved listening to the records in the sound proof booth at the base library.
Robert Williams
Hi Mike, I too was stationed there at the same time that you were. I have fond memories of my time there. I lived in the barracks directly across from the Hq. building on the 3 rd floor. I worked in Food Services and Supply Logistic Division. I did 42 weeks of training as a 23T on the Hawk radar system at Redstone, I did not complete the course, my grades were not the best and the Army at that time needed people who could type fast with a degree of accuracy, I fit the bill as I typed about 80 words a minute on a manual, and was reassigned as a 71B. There was an incident that I am trying to find the date of or get close to it. There was a fight of a Mail Clerk and a Sp4 Poole, which led to a Sp6 being attacked while in the shower the next day. MP’s were called and the end result Sp4 was removed from the company and reassigned Would you remember this or know any MP’s who might know the date of this? Please let me know.
Robert Williams
Does anyone remember a Sp4 Poole who was in the HQ Company 59th Ord Group (AWSCOM) between 1969 and 1971? Or the SP6 who was attacked while in the shower of barracks across the street of the Company HQ, building. Need date of this incident, MP’s were called and statements were taken, Sp4 Poole was removed from his job and the company, and was reassigned.
peter anderson sp4 447 sig. battalion
Hey David, Just got a e-mail from scribber.com apparently they have signed me up for more e-mails which is great.Thanks for all the help! Please keep in touch. Andy
Rochelle Hatchett Ott
My Name is Rochelle Hatchett & I married SFC Ott. We were both in Pal Detachment.
Dan Kelly
Hi Rochelle,
I remember SFC Ott! I arrived in the PAL Det in December ’86 and was stationed there till Dec ’88. SFC Ott was the 1st Sgt when I arrived. Great times.
Then LT Dan Kelly.
Alan Johnson
I was stationed at HHQ btry of the 2/56th Air defense unit (Night Hides Not) from Nov 1969 thru Mar 1971. We had four field Batteries and I visited all of them at one time or another in my assignment of a Personnel Specialist. Well remember when one of the Hercs, I believe was in C Battery, went “Hot”! Man was everybody scrambling that day! Worked with M. Aleksick, J. Burrows, R. Oshiro, D.Barber, D. Newton (deceased), and others. Wouyld like to hear from them.
Jimdancy
I was an mp in C battery 2/56 in 1969. Came back from Nam and the Army decided to send me to the armpit of, the world for my last 10 months.
Lived with my new wife in Hinterweidenthal, 3 on and one off. My only reprieve was my audiovisual talent as I used to show the 16mm movies “down the hill “.
rich calnan
this is rich calnan worked in the message center across from Section one where Kim Brothers from Ohio worked ring any bells with anyone
Robert Rigdon
Rich. Was this in the data Terminal (Stracom Facility). And for what years. I worked there from 1973-1976. I was a sergeant.
rick
I was there from 1986-89. 165th signal company. had a great time. breaks my heart to see my barracks
michael king
I was in Pirmasens from 1984 – 1985 with 165th Signal Co. Awesome time there and great memories! Hard to see the changes today.
Brian Elfers
Was there from 1990 to 1992. Great time with my buddies at the 165th signal Co !!
Kelsi Espinosa
Hi, i was born here in 1993. I don’t know much about what hospital, all that i know is that my parents were stationed here, RIP srgt. Espinosa
ADAN MALDONADO
THIS IS TO EDITH ALLISON FROM THEN SGT. ADAN MALDONADO-NCOIC OF MILITARY POLICE OF 2ND. M.I. FROM 79-82. I WAS THE BN. SOLDIER OF THE YEAR, 66 M.I. GROUP SOLDIER OF THE YEAR ALSO.
Emory L Cooke
I was with the 546th Maint.Company from July 76 thru July 79. I worked in the Armament Repair Shop.. I really loved being stationed here. Are there any other members like Michael Clairemont still out there.
Tom Stull
I was there from 1983 to 1984, 5th Combat Equipment Co. Best time of my life. I think of it often. Am still in touch with friends I made there. It really did seem like a special place. I too have a Parkbrau Liter Mug on my mantle right now. Met some great German girls there.
Devron sternke
Thank you so much for the article. I grew up in Pirmasens. 1980-1993. It is my home and I intend to take my kids there some day.
William Noe
Hi Devron, this is Matt Noe. I was browsing through these comments and noticed a famaliar name. I was stationed there working with the Hq detachment Military Police from 88-93, and if it’s the same Sternke, I worked with your Dad on occasion. Hope all is well!
Steve Carter
Served in STRATCOM from 1970 to 1972. Loved it in Germany. Miss all the guys.
Teri
Did you know s/Sgt. Tom Santora?
John Conway
Stationed at Stratcomm Pirmasens 1972 to 1973. Tom Santos’s was my section Supervisor. I was a 31j20 working on the teletypes.
Pat Hampton
Hello, my name is Pat Hampton, I grew up as a dependent in Pirmasens from 1974-1984. I started the 3rd grade at Pirmasens Elementary School, attended Pirmasens Junior High School, and graduated from Zweibrucken American High School in 1984. My father was MSG Jimmie Lee Hampton, NCOIC of the 59th Ord Brigade IG Office. He and mom retired in Pirmasens and remained there for decades afterwards. Dad worked as a DOD civilian in Zweibrucken and K-Town after he retired from the Army. My two sisters Gloria and Sandy Hampton also graduated from Zwei High. I visited Pirmasens and surrounding area last in December 2017. All of the army installations surounding Pirmasens are closed, including Zweibrucken Army and Air Force installations..
We had some fun times in Pirm, including participating in DYA sports. Thanks for bringing back some great memories
larry Rosene
John Conway – I’ve been looking for you for YEARS! If you get this message contact me on Facebook, or at larosene@comcast.net
Robert Rigdon
Hello Steve. I worked in the Data Terminal, (Stracom Facility) from 1973-1976. Trying to contact anyone that might have pictures of the Kaserne in their collections.. Thanks a bunch.
Dave matteson
I was in pirmasens from 77 to 81. Loved it. Was the tower chief at the airfield. 22nd avn was the host avn unit. Married a hot crew chief from 22nd. Only female crew chief at time. Had many friends in 546 maintain, 2/56ada. Anyone remember Dave Matteson or Kym or Margie from airfield???
John Chandler
Was in the 546 maintenance as well. Had a bad right leg and a cane until the 3rd surgery to fix me. Was there from 79 to 83. Missed the curry wurst and Pom fritz the hot spicy wine shopping in the town square every other day for food.
Melissa Derby
My dad is Stuart Carey. He was called Butch also.
Patrick B McCurry
I was there 78-81. 267th Signal Corp. Had a blast. Was there when they brough in the raquetball courts. Played me a bunch of Raquetball. Drank lots of beer at the bowling alley. Played “Spave Invaders” there too. Buddies with Chris Ruff, Bobby Crutchfield, Bruce Johnson. Did theatre at the local playhouse. Had a ton of Currywurst at the entry gate too!! Good times.
Steve Sutton
Dad (CMSgt Elmer Sutton) was stationed at nearby Zweibrucken AFB from Dec ’72 – Jun ’76. and ran either the FMS or OMS units of the 26th Tactical Reconnaissance Wing – RF-4C’s were stationed their then. I went to the American High School on base and used to visit friends that lived in Pirmasens.
Does anyone remember the skeet, trap & rifle range that was around this area? Us Americans would use it on Saturdays and the German would use it on Sundays. A MSGst that worked for my dad ran it, but I believe it was owned by the US Army.
I have not been back since I left, but hope to soon. I don’t know if I would recognize much of anything, especially around the bases.
SFC Richard C. Mensinger USA retired
I was stationed in Pirm on 1988 to 1990.
Went to basic training at Fort Bliss 1988 with Charlie Company 2/56 ADA. Guess I got to see both sides of the umit relocation.
Rich
Felix Quinones
I was there from Nov ’79 through Dec ’81 with the 267th Signal Company. I was assigned to the TCC. Life after the army was very different for me. I heeded the call from God and became a corrections officer. I am now retired from the Federal Bureau of Prisons.
ray fodge
Ray Fodgev 267 Sig 1980 to 1985 Lohnsfeld Rcvr Det
Douglas Peters
I was a 26V in microwave, 77 to Aug 81. now about to retire from the VA.
Pirmasens was a lot of fun, spent some time in Lohnsfeld also.
Patrick B McCurry
Doug Peters. Patrick McCurry here. 267th 26R worked under SSG Woodruff. You were there!! Me too.
Jack Vines
I was in the USA PAL Detachment at Pirmasens fall-’68 to summer ’70 and lived in the BOQs adjacent to the Officer’s Club.
Met my future wife there, who was a teacher working at the USAF Base in Zweibrucken.
I visited once in the ’90s and the BOQs had been totally renovated but were standing empty; actually got to go into my old rooms.
Hope to see the area again sometime soon.
jack vines
Jim Dike
Jack,
My father served with you in the PAL Detachment, MSG Edward Dike. I was 12 years old back then, but I recall meeting you and other young officers in the Detachment. If I recall correctly, I believe it was you visited my family back in the states, Minnesota in the early 70’s? My Dad enjoyed his PAL Detachment assignment, and often referred to it as one of his best in his 30+ year Army carrier. My Dad passed away a few years ago, at the age of 92; we miss him be the memories live on.
Best Regards,
Jim Dike
Woodbury, MN
Jack Vines
Greetings, Jim,
Yes, I remember Sgt Dike and my brief visit to your home in MN.in 1971.
Like your father, the PAL Detachment was the best the US Army had to offer. I volunteered to stay there for twenty as an 2ndLT, but the Army thought I needed to be in VietNam, so I went to Fort Sheridan in Panama for Jungle Warfare Training, then a couple of schools in Nam then a Mobile Advisory Training.
FWIW, my wife and I hope to visit Pirmasens this fall.
Again, thanks for the memories.
jack vines.
Dan Meijome
Jack
Just came across your posting and it brought back faint memories of long ago. I was stationed in Pirmasens from 1968 to 1970, with the 45th Finance Section. I was friends with a couple of guys attached to your unit. One was named Frank – he was from Chicago. The other was a kid whom we called “Hock” – I believe this was an abbreviated version of his last name. Do you recall them? I have pictures of them, but couldn’t remember their complete names.
Dan
Mesa, Arizona
bill steadman
Just saw your name and thought i would say hello. Hope you are well.
Jack Vines
Hi, Bill,
Good to hear from you. Hope all is well with you and yours.
My wife and I visited Pirmasens this spring and the office building is still there, but most of the quarters and clubs are gone. Whatever grand hopes they had for 21st century business development wasn’t happening.
FWIW, Munchweiler has become a thriving bedroom subdivision and very few traces of the Army remain.
jack vines
Ray Heffley
1978 to 1980 165th Signal Motor Pool. Most of my memories are good. Played lots of softball and bowling. I operated the 5 ton Wrecker. Anyone know me or like to talk i’m on facebook. Ray Heffley. Be glad to chat ON FACEBOOK
Michael Wilkerson
What majcom or BN did the 165th fall under. I do not recall and signal companies other than the 267th and 270th while I was there Jan 74 – Nov 79.
Ray Heffley
Hello Michael Wilkerson. The 165th Signal Co. was attached to the 59th Ordnance Brigade. Our Motorpool was shared by the 22nd Aviation. We would help remove and install rotor blades for Avn. We had signal equipment trucks. You would see our Motor Pool on top of the hill to the left as you enter the gate. Our Barracks building was directly in front of the Mess Hall. You can google 165th Signal Pirmasens. I believe they were gone by 1985. I was there 1978-1980. The Company went to war a group made up of Hollywood camera men. Much of WWII film was from this company in its origin. Thanks. Hope your well.
Sarah Devine
They came under 59th Ord Bde
Rick Vieregge
I remember you back around 1973 I worked at the com center with you
Joel Heller
Served with trash er I mean Stratcom in the early ’70’s. Work in building 4646 while we were replacing an ancient smoke signal type facility with at real communications site.
Many, many good times including the infamous Scooter Pie bust on the football field.
Some not so good times too but they all seem good to me now.
Chad Waybright
I was with the 541st Signal Company (SPT) under AWSCOM 1962-1964 there in Pirmasens. Did some TDY in Massweiler with the 529th Ord Co. early 1962. Anyone there at the same time, please respond. TKS —
Tony Bearden
My dad, Bob Bearden was stationed at Husterhoeh from 1964-1967…I attended High School in K-town…it was a 4 hour round trip every day…loved it……..tonyb
David. Dyer
Was there 1961 -1962 541st signal, left December 62
Jerry Lucas
My father served with STRATCOM (MSG Jerry Lucas) from Jam 63 until his retirement in Aug 64. I currently live near Ramstein so I need to go check out the Husterhoeh Kaserne area.
Vanessa McPeak Panter
My father is Joe McPeak and we lived there 1971-73 I went to 4th and 5th grade there, such good memories I have of living in Germany.
Herbert Baker
I was with the 447th Signal Battalion from September, 1960 thru October, 1962, finance clerk, in Battalion personnel (Hq Detachment) Would like to hear from anyone from the 447th, during that time.
My name is Herbert Baker
peter anderson sp4 447 sig. battalion
Hi Herbrert Baker this is Andy fr0m the 447 Sig Batt. I was there the same time as you,60-63 in Hqrs Det. in Pirmasens. I was the Cols driver. Your boss was Marion Voss if I remember right. Would like to hear from you!! Andy.
albertvan scooter,
my name is al van scooter i served in b company i was a platoon sgt. don’t remember which platoon. worked with spirial 4 cable. went tdy to berlin several times. also. tdy to saran france and amballa. india. served in germany from 1961 to 1964. left and went fort benning, .still remember pirmasens.
Jim mattson
My name is Jim Mattson. I was in headquarters company from Dec 1958 to Oct 1960. I was finance clerk for Company B.
Bobby Hatfield
I was there assigned to HQ of the 2/56 during the end of 70 – 71, Was in re-enlistment for Sargent First Class Laudermilk and Staff Sargent Priddle. I visited all batteries, Went to the 94th ADDCOM with General Roberts. I also played and coach basketball while I was there. The Col. Walsh (Gray Ghost was what he liked to be called) was a total ass.
Monte Cole Landis
We were stationed in Pirmasens (73-77) SSG Alasdair Cole and Monte. Al was a Race Relations instructor. I worked at the Officers Club. Looking for anyone who might have lived in Building 4507. Also, does anyone remember Sgt Dave Cherry and Dana. We lost Dana this year and Dave is very sick.
Roger Daniels
Thanks so much for posting this. I was a chaplain’s asst at the chapel on Husterhöh from 78-80. So many great memories of that place. Haven’t had a chance to return but have plans for this fall. Just want to walk around and remember. I have been looking for a friend who was there when i was, her name was Donna Ross. I think i remember that she was with the MI branch. thanks again for this article and the pics.
Donna Ross
Hi Roger,
Wow! Technology is a wonderful thing. I was in Pirm from 79-81 and I remember you. I just heard from Moe Bonin. My email is ross.donna78@gmail.com. Donna Ross
ps I worked at the counseling center, definitely not MI
Bob Keller
Did you know Jerry Davis (Chaplin Assistant). I left in 76 and he may have still
been there.
Michael Wilkerson
I was with the 270th Signal Company. We provided O&M for the Autodin switch down past the med depot just before the antenna farm, Our barracks was in between the banana building and 2nd MI barracks. I was there from 74 – 79. Great times there.
Michael Saul
Our dad, SFC Milton Saul, was there 78-80. We were in Muenchweiller for a time, then Bunker Hill, just down from the commissary. Miss our Pirmasens days. Not much has survived the intervening years, in terms of our photos and mementos from Pirm… Sad to see the conditions of some of the buildings, now but glad to see some of the repurposing that has been done, as well!
Randall Taylor
Enjoyed your post. I was the club officer in Pirmasens from 1969-1972. I was responsible for the officers’ club (POCOM) and the NCO Frontier club. I vacationed in Pirmasens in 2005 and found the officers club abandoned and boarded up. The Frontier Club was a motorcycle repair shop and the chapel was a disco. My trip brought back many fond memories.
Ray Bows
Randall,
I was stationed in Pirmasens in 1970 and part of 71 with Major Fred T. Miller, CO of the 22d Avn Co. and SFC :”BIg Sam” Scandral, who had his special mug behind the bar and would pour two Heinekins in his mug at one time with one hand. You can’t help but remember Sam – I once saw him lift a soldier off the floor by grabbing his head like a soft ball and lifting him with one arm sterchted outright. Sam and I were with Hqs AWSCOM trans section.
Ray Bows, US Army ret..
Rod Brimhall
Loved this article. I was stationed at the DSP from 1973 through 1977 as a Nike Radar and Computer Repairman (as I believe you were as well, Tom). Drove out to all of the battery’s.
I returned for a visit in 1984, and all of the sites, as well as most of the kaserne, was closed.
A bunch of us vets have restored a Nike site in Golden Gate National Park and lead tours on Saturdays. It is great fun and the visitors are amazed.
Thanks for the memories.
Thomas A. Wiebe
Rod, if I remember correctly, you were a 23N40, the best job of our group – actually working onsite and fixing the radars and the other electronic equipment. I have read of the restored site at the North end of the Golden Gate bridge. I live in SoCal, and occasionally find my way to the Bay Area. Next time I am up, I will make an effort to get over there and see it. Thanks for responding.
Rod Brimhall
Tom, you are correct. I enjoyed going to the sites, although not in the middle of the night, or for days at a time. :).
If you come up (and I hope you do), try to make it on the first Saturday of the month. On that day we have a ‘open house’ style day, and all of the Nike Vets try to be there. One of the vets is a warhead specialist and was stationed in Fischbach during the same period that we were there. I am usually there the 1st and 2nd Saturday of the month. Take care.
Grant Carlson
Hi Randall,
I worked in the Frontier Club as a waiter during the fall of 1963 until April the next year and made some very good friends.. I was a tall blond guy known as Carlson. Barbara worked behind the bar and Franco (who i later met by accident in Perth Australia) was the head waiter. Ring any bells? Cheers, Grant
Alan Delphia
Hello , I was also working at 2/56 Ada DSP building and in their computer van with sgt. Roy Prunk and sgt. Larry Pruitt. In 1972. Lt. John hostettler was OIC of our unit. I played lots of softball and the movies, bowling alley and the gym while there. Also served there with good friend sp4 Raul Vasquez. Would love to here from you or any of the guys from DSP.
james francisco
I was at
Was at DSP July 69 – Feb 70, Live in the Bay Area. Would like to volunteer.
james francisco
I was at
Was at DSP July 69 – Feb 70, Live in the Bay Area. Would like to volunteer.
Charles Mock
I was there at 2/56 from summer of 68- 69 worked at NCO Club, and Motor pool. Loved it Married a girl from there we go back ever so often Your story is so true. Thank you so much for your thoughts and putting them in words. SP5 Mock
Cynthia Taylor (Klegin)
“Memories, like the corners of my mind…” I was stationed with the 546th Maintenance Co. from 1979 to 1980 before being transfered down to Smiley Barracks in Karlsruhe. Our barracks were in the Banana building. Some of my fondest, youthful memories were from that place and time. I still have dreams about the place. I am planning a pilgrimage back sometime in the near future. Anyone else serve with the 546th?
Becky Troxell
My ex husband was attached to the 546th Maint. Co. from 1985-1988.
I worked at the commisary and also at the Kathe Wolfhardt Christmas Market.
I also worked in Swuibruecken (not sure I spelled this right) at the Christmas Market there and also the Commisary. Our daughter was born in Landsthul. So many wonderful memories and friends came from that place! My ex-husbands name is Brian Troxell. Anyone remember him?
Pablo R. Hernandez- Sanchez
Hi Cynthia, I was with the 546th Maintenance from 1976- 1981 and remember the many hours we spent with Reforgers activities. Lots of work but many great times too. latter in 1983 – 1988 I was in the 5th CEC until I went to Landstuhl where I stayed until retirement. Greetttings form Spain.
Cynthia Taylor
Hello Pablo,
Thanks for the response to my post. I do remember the reforgers. I remember going up to Paderborn to provide support to a German tank division (if I am remembering correctly). At any rate, I still have the beer stein from Paderborn as well as a few from the Parkbrau brewery. Truly some of the best times of my life were had in Pirmasens and in Germany as a whole. After Karlsruhe, I took a European out and was working as a GS05 with the 7th Sig Br in Mannheim until my return to the states in 1983. I now live in Anchorage, Alaska. Thanks again Pablo and hope this finds you well.
Henry Pierce
I was stationed there from 1962 to 1964. I was a member of the 447th Signal Battalion (Cable Construction). The Army disbanded the battalion during my tour there into two Signal Companies. I was assigned to the 229th Signal Company for the remainder of my tour. I rotated back to the USA and finished my hitch at Ft. Riley with the First Infantry Division. I remember the Texas Bar across the street from the gate nearest our barracks as well as The Turmshank .sic just down the street. As an 18 year old kid away from home the first time, it was quite an adventure. Parkbrau beer was the local brew. I married a fraulein and our daughter was born at Muenchweiler Army Hospital.
J erry Stevens
Henry, I drank Parkbrau beer too! I even have a Parkbrau liter mug now. We used to go downtown and eat at the restaurant run by the brewery. Good memories. In those days, the dollar brought 4 marks 25 pfennigs. I bought a new VW for 1200 dollars! Try it now!
Jim Mattson Mattson
With 447th Sig Bn from Dec 1958 to Oct 1958.
J erry Stevens
Great article! Tony Hallman and I were there at the same time. I was in 7774 Sig Svc Bn, billeted in the building next to the “banana” building. I still remember when the Engineers got their orders to go to Lebanon. Not knowing if they would be returning, most of the soldiers were selling their personal possessions out on the company street.
It is one of the highlights of my day to find this website and to relive those days if just for a while.
bauer
My husband Curt Bauer Spc 5 was stationed in Pirmasens Army Depot at KARPAC personnel office above Dew Drop Inn from ’73-“74. In MOS testing section.
K Bauer
Tony Hallman
Great article! Learned alot about a place that was my home from 1958-1960 when I was attached to the 79th Engineer Battalion in what I read now is called the “banana” bldg. Our unit was one of the larger one’s on post in those days and we were quite active. Went to the rebel uprising in Beirut, Lebanon in summer of ’58. TDY to Nancy France in ’59 to build roads and various motor pool facilities. In 1960 went to Northern Germany for more building jobs. In between these jobs we were active building in Massweiler, Karlsrhue and Heidleberg. Best part of tour were trips to Barcelona, Copenhagen and Paris on leave. Also spent most of my meager pay, about $80. month on my bar bill in nearby Fehrbach. Would like someone to tell me why the name of our Kaserne was changed from D’Isley to Husterhoeh after my departure. Again, really like your site!
Karl Schmitt
I Worked for the Facili engineer in Pirmasensfrom 1951 to 1990 and was responsuble for the maintenance and repair of all the Buildings ans Streúctutrs in Pirmasens Post.. The reason wy the Nome of teh Casern was changed to Husterhöhkaserne . The Former nome was given by the French after 1945. The former Germen Nom was Husterhöhkaserne an the French Name has ben changed to the original german Name has ben Made on a rquest off the Mair of Pirmasens.
Jon
My Dad was the CSM of the 79th Engrs when they were in The “banana building” in Pirmasens. Something happened and i wound up going to German school. Please contact me at jsiegel378@gmail.com
Brenda Torres
I was stationed there from 81-83, HHB 2/56 ADA. Our barracks was named the banana building. In the winter, it was cold walking to the DSP in the winter. Met a lot of good people and still keep in touch with them. Would love to locate Sgt Daniel Prohaska.
Brenda Taylor Torres
mbtorres697@gmail.com
Anonymous
hello me from pirmasens my dad was in the army his name is kenneth caroll some one remember him?search for him never seen him wanna now what happen with him! sorry for my bad englisch! mom tells me that he was an”grizzlymonkey”@the 504.my name is sven renneis
Anonymous
hello if anyone can help me that I, my father can finally get to know the times or with what had happened then he can write me please email svenrenneis@gmx.de.
I thank you now to talk with friendly greet sven
writen with google:-)think that isnt better then meins
hello if anyone can help me that I, my father can finally get to know the times or with what had happened then he can write me please email svenrenneis@gmx.de.
I thank you now to talk with friendly greet sven
Ron Russell
Likely Kenneth was a “grease monkey.” The base had a large motor pool, servicing vehicles. I was there in late 50’s. Those folks worked on keeping the chassis parts lubricated. Yucky job!
Sven
Hello thats my Last try too find him ok my Email is Change or was wrong thus die aus für right one renneis.s@gmx.de
Eddie Harmon
I was at DSP in 2nd of 56 from 10/69 to about 7/70. I learned a lot which cam in handy later on. Then got transferred to Kaiserslautern. I had a great time in Pirmasens, met a lot of great guys. I would like to hear from some of the DSP guys.
Eddie Harmon
sales@ncservo.com
Anonymous
C2/56 Nike ???
Bernardo Herrera
when were you there, I was there 72-73
Anonymous
I was stationed there with the 76th Transportation Company.I noticed that you had a shot of bldg 4606, that was our barracks. the pictures brought back many fond memories thanks.
Judy Hawkins
I went out with a couple guys from 76th Trans. First guy I don’t remember his name but he was from Redding, CA. The second guy was named Robert Lockett, really cool, smart guy. This was from late ’77 to June ’79. I was in 2nd MI & if I remember our barracks was kitty-corner from yours, and the back of ours faced out off base, I think it was near where Rodolbestrasse started and curved NE from the Kaserne. Such a long time ago, difficult to remember much. I also worked part time at the bowling alley, mostly cooking burgers and handing out shoes & such.
Ron "Bobo" Shelton
I remember Bob Lockett. the last time I seen him was in 81. I was the first truck in a convoy going to Berlin. I was picking up my documents from the American check point so was he. He had gotten out of the Army and came back and started driving for AAFEES. He lived in Berlin. he came over that evening once our convoy got to Berlin. he took a few of us to some of the clubs and had a few drinks with us. yes he was pretty cool. one thing I remembered about Bob was that he paid very close attention to his mustache trimmed very regular. … I was there from nov79 – jan 82
Bob Buelow
I was with the 524th Maintenance Co. We shared barracks space with the 76th Trans. I was there from 82 – 84.
I worked inside PIMRA right next to the Canteen. I loved the cooking at that Canteen.
Bob Henning
I was stationed there from 1970-1977 and 1978-1985. Worked in the Reference Lab of the 524th Maintenance Co. Lived in Pirmasens housing 1st tour and Muenchwiler housing 2nd tour. Had 2 children born at Landstuhl. Wound up becoming the unit’s 1SG. Wonderful memories.
Kevin
Very cool! My family was stationed there from early 1974 to mid 1979. My father was Master Sergeant Weber. I have so many wonderful memories of that place. Thanks for posting this.
Anonymous
Hi…Tom Wiebe,I’m the guy who replaced you back in 1975-80.Stewart Lotches my name.Very well done
on your artical.I too was a 22l20 at hhq 2/56 I miss Pirmasens also,I had so much fun there..Remember Sgt.Snabble….Shakey Jake..Barry Rita..You know I have not received any of my Military clothes or civilan items yet ?I took one duffle bag full to RSA ALA.But any way
good luck on your site…Peace brother…my email
blazerfan20042002@yahoo.com
Peter Atwood
I was stationed in Massweiler from 79 to 86 we had to ride a bus 45 minutes to Pirmasens to go to the Px and all that stuff. Massweiler is deserted also. Had some great times over there, planning a vacation to go over to walk down memory lane.
Chad Waybright
Peter – I was in Massweiler in early 62 – we shuttled troops to Pirmasens in a Deuce and a half, no buses back then. I don’t think the trip took 45 minutes, but I’m know the ride was a lot less comfortable than a bus. Take care.
Anonymous
I worked in the AN/MSG-4 Support team stationed there in an old Nuclear weapons Bldg, that had been the Stables in WW1. We shared that space with the Vulcan Army team. That was in 1972-3. We had so many spares that we had no use for, and so we sent a shelter back to the US Army Bluegrass Army Depot in Avon Kentucky. The shelter had at $50,000.00 of lost parts that we could not use. I used to have a photo of the sign, with myself and William Yates, also a civilian employee. The sign was in front of the building. The tanks parked inside a wire fence to the rear of our building.
Anonymous
I was NOT stationed there but further South, near Munich, from 72-75. However, my great grandfather (and prior) were from Pirmasens. I’m always curious about the area so I found your comments interesting. You gotta love google… I ran into your posting by accident, glad I did.
Joanne Pollock Williams
Wow, thank you for posting this page! I lived in Husterhoeh from 1973-1978. My father was 1SGT Pollock of 2/56th ADA. We lived in the apartments across from the PX. I was already out of high school when we moved there from Key West, Florida so I got a job in Zweibrucken working at the Quartermaster Store on the Army base. Living there was such a wonderful experience and I had the great opportunity of traveling Europe that only a resident there could afford. I found your page searching for a friend from that time, he was also a dependant and worked for the snack bar at the other end of the Kaserne by the gym. I have such fond memories that being a dependent of the Army afforded me. Thank you again for revisiting and posting your photos. I have not made it back to Europe again.
Rod Brimhall
Hi Joanne. I have great memories of 1st Sgt Pollock Or ””Top” as I knew him. He was the reason that I was selected and got to go to Paris (as color guard) for the
Bicentennial Celebrations. He also got me before the E6 selection board and I made Staff Sgt. I very much appreciated him during my time there.
SSgt Rod Brimhall
John Camacho
Hi Joanne,
My father was John Camacho he was the Sgt/Major of the 2/56 ADA from 1972-76. I’m sure he knew your father. I had a younger sister Jeanette who was in grade school at that time. I was also in the Army from at Pirmasens Army Depot HHC Calibration Company. My other sister Dianna was working at the American Express Bank at Pirmasens 1972-75. Her Husband was a Air Traffic controller 22 Aviation there as well. My father passed away back in 1980 shortly after he retired with 32 years of service. It was nice seeing all the chat about Pirm.
John Camacho
Thomas A. Wiebe
John, I served under your father in the 2/56 ADA DSP from 1974-1976. I worked in the DSP building down the road from his office at headquarters, so I only encountered him occasionally, but I still remember him as a good man: tough, fair and respectful of those he led. I served only one 3 year hitch in the Army, and was initially nervous about the potential for arbitrary treatment by the sergeants above me. Sgt/Major Camacho was one of several senior non-coms who, by his example, showed me the high level of professionalism exhibited by most of the non-coms I encountered in the Army. By the time I left the service, I had developed an enduring respect for the non-coms who led my units, and your father played no small part in my education in that regard.
Bernardo Herrera
Good morning, I received an email for a Jaoanne but there isn’t a person by that name at this email address, its strange that I received this email. My name is Bernie Herrera (Spec.4 Herrera), I was stationed in Germany from 72-73. at C Battery (32 Adcom 2/56). I worked up the hill.
John M. Schumacher
I was there 73 and 74, worked on the Pirmasens Courrier out of Headquarters. If that auto in your picture is the back end of a Dodge Challenger, it might have been my Staff Sargents Charles D. Ingram. I was attached to 97th Quartermaster but assigned to headquarters. Thanks.
Russell Ford
I was in 97th QM BN 74/77 I worked at the AK with SFC Cardenas, and SSG Roston Beard you might have been gone when I got to Pirmasens in Aug 74
thomas poisson
HI russell, was curious to know what was the ( AK ) you mentioned you worked at?. at the 97th qm bn.
Anonymous
I was stationed there in 67 with the 97th Eng, then we moved to Fort Riley. Thank you for the article
Rachel
It’s been a while, so you may not see this but my dad was stationed at Pirmasens from about ’88-’91 and then we were went to Fort Riley! I was a Pirmasens Pirmasaurus at the elementary school and lived for shopping at the PX. Many happy memories, but almost no photos. Particularly, I have never been able to find photos of the school. We had a very unusual and nice playground. All these huge structures made of logs. One playground had a great suspension bridge we liked to jump on to try to make each other lose our balance. I had assumed growing up I would see it again someday, but GoogleEarth put an end to that plan. When I looked for the base around 2006 I was very devastated to see the street names still show up, but there was just dirt where a lot of the buildings should have been. Being a kid, I just assumed when I heard the base had closed that they had just gone on using it in other ways.
Kyle King
Hi Rachel! I was at Pirmasens Elementary with you – ’87 through ’90. My maiden name is Kyle Pund, my dad (Retired Captain) David Pund was the company commander of the 59th ordinance brigade. My siblings are Keith, Kory and Kari Pund. I wonder if you would remember any of us. I am actually the kid who came up with the “Pirmasens Pirmasaurus” mascot and won the mascot contest, I would’ve been in 5th grade. I was telling my 11 year old son the story of the Pirmasaurus this morning, got curious and did a Google search. I got exactly 1 hit – You are the only person on the entire internet who referenced it. Funny!
Aaron Helton
This is fascinating. By the time I arrived there in ’98 with the 226th Med Bn, working alongside the Medical Materiel Command, the place was already a ghost town. I remember running through the deserted streets and past the empty buildings wondering what would happen to all of it. Seems some of my colleagues had lived there before I arrived and had since been moved to Vogelweh, where they caught a bus or drove to Pirmasens every day.
Anyway, glad to see that the area hasn’t been left to decay.
WILLIAM C. POWELL
HELLO, AARON,
CURIOUS TO KNOW IF YOUR FATHER MIGHT HAVE BEEN KAY HELTON WHO I WORKED WITH IN THE QM CORPS.
BILL POWELL
Anonymous
Great article! I was stationed there myself (2d MI, 78-81) and wondered what they were going to do with the old girl.
Edith Allison
Judy Hawkins
I think I remember you. Did you work in the S1? I did at first and then worked in the vault for Cpt. Scott (?). I came over to 2nd MI in late ’77 after transferring from 73rd MI at Stuttgart Army Airfield. For awhile I used to ride a little blue & white Yamaha motorcycle. My name is Judy Hawkins.
ADAN MALDONADO
HI EDITH ALLISON, MY NAME WAS SGT. ADAN MALDONADO FROM 2ND. MI. BN. FROM 4/1979 TO 2/1982. I WAS IN CHARGE OF THE SECURITY OF THE SCIF AND OF ALL OF THE MILITARY POLICE DETACHMENT. I REMEMBER: SGT. WEEKS, MSG. VALDEZ, MSG. PINEDA, 1SG. KLOSINSKI, LTC. KOLLER. ETC. ETC. RETIRED FROM THE ARMY-LIVE IN LAREDO, TEXAS-E-MAIL: NADA2@PRODIGY.NET. GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU.
ADAN MALDONADO